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France. Immolation. There's a first time for everything...Unfortunately.
Michael C , Lyon: Oct 19 2008
Made Popular Oct 20 2008
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France. Immolation. There's a first time for everything...Unfortunately.

A woman in France died yesterday after setting herself on fire to protest the expulsion of her boyfriend to Armenia. She had phoned journalists and arranged to meet them in front of the prison where he was being held, and, when they arrived, she lit the match.....

Her boyfriend was being sent back because he is a “sans-papier” (literally “with no (identity) papers”. In other words, he was considered to be an illegal immigrant. I could write about the decision to expulse him, but that’s not the subject here.

Once again, France is witnessing a practice that is almost unheard of in Western culture, and that will surely fan the flames of racial division. There have been several instances of people committing suicide to avoid expulsion in the last two years, most notably by throwing themselves off balconies in high-rise apartment blocks when the police arrive to arrest them.

This tragic tendancy has once again been thrust into the spotlight in a horrible manner, but, my dear reader, you may be confident that the French will finally see this as what it is - namely an immigration issue, and not a cultural/racial one.

The global melting-pot is a wonderful thing. Unfortunately, some people get crushed during the stirring-things-around-to-mix-them-together stage....

My thoughts go out to her boyfriend, her family, and all those who come here to France in desperation, hoping to avoid the poverty and repression they suffered elsewhere.

The world is NOT always a nice place to be.

But we hope on, and on, and on....let’s not stop.

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Shahwar K
kolkata, India
This is miserable!

Hope

curse hope

which

still

dreams on...
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Michael C
Lyon, France
This is not a comment. It’s a poem. It says it all. It is a ten-word jewel, and I thank you for it.
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Shahwar K
kolkata, India
Your posts call forth poems, I guess!

:

:”|

:>P

:P :) :P :)
(Global Perspectives)
3 Stars
Shahwar K
kolkata, India
The pictures are horrifying!

Truth is horrifying!
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Michael C
Lyon, France
Shahwar, do you know how to give a comment a hundred stars? I keep clicking on the button, but nothing happens.......
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Shahwar K
kolkata, India
Umm...

I suppose you just have to keep blinking till you see stars hovering above in youe celestial umbrella!
(Global Perspectives)
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Michael C
Lyon, France
No problem, blinking is natural...and automatic....
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Shahwar K
kolkata, India
Hmm...

it sure is then!

Blink your pain away...

tis my song...

tis my day...

WOW!

nice song, wa’d do u say, Mr.Michael Sir???
(Global Perspectives)
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Michael C
Lyon, France
”Blink your pain away...

tis my song...

tis my day...”

What do I say? I say that there are people capable of putting that to music.....and they do.
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Shahwar K
kolkata, India
”I am sure there ARE!

I am sure they are not FAR!

The star sings their songs,

Of the people, not far...!”

I dunno what’s wrong...I’d better go and get myself some sleep!

:)

p.s.- I have sure deflected the main issue of your post to distant lands...

I applologise!

:) :(
(Global Perspectives)
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Shahwar K
kolkata, India
A P P O L O G I S E!

silly me!
(Global Perspectives)
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Vijay
Kota, India
Yes Michael,I cant copy paste yr last lines[not the last words] becoz I already got a warning.
Hope.................................................
Life is an ocasion and everybody must enjoy it ,tuff times comes in everybody’s life and doesn’t remains forever.
France is the only country in the world where only less than 10% population follows any religion and the cultural and racial issues never arises.
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Michael C
Lyon, France
Hi Vijay,

yes life is hard, and some people just don’t make it through. That will not change. All we can do is try and reduce the suffering......and it’s consequences.

You are right about France. (However, for your information, three-quarters of the French, according to a recent survey, say they have spiritual convictions of one sort or another).

Nice to hear from you, my friend!
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I guess only mentally unstable and extremely desperate people can take such extreme steps. In India people have lit match to draw attention to issues...sometimes sentiments and emotions are whipped up by political parties...

These people and their issues are seeking attention...and sadly they get it only after litting the match...
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Michael C
Lyon, France
Madhuri!! Great to see you! Yes, I have read of instances of ”political immolation” in India and elsewhere. Nothing, no cause, nothing, is worth doing this to yourself...

(I was wondering when you would be back online. Now I don’t have to anymore. Great!!)

Seeya!
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Self immolation is a sin, a crime and serves no purpose. It does not move governments into action. The means does not justify the end result.
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Michael C
Lyon, France
Hello Ramesh,

I am pleased you wrote, because I was just thinking about how self-immolation (pleonasm?) is viewed in other parts of the world. Do you think it’s well-considered anywhere? (Like Hari-Kiri in Japan, for example........)
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Collective self immolation by princess and queens have been done as a tradition called Johar in Rajasthan for saving their honour in the face of sure defeat. Boondi became a ghost city when all women committed Johar and all men died leaving only the kids alive. The invading Muslims did not find any womenfold as sexual booty.

Some Rajput woman after the death of her husband mounted on the burning funeral pyre. The act was called Sati. The practice was banned during British rule of India.

Although these were social practices during Mughal invasion, they don’t have any religious sanctity. These are not in vogue and are criminal acts now.
(Global Perspectives)
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Michael C
Lyon, France
Thanks for answering, Ramesh..

Yes, now you mention it, I seem to remember reading recently about a woman committing Sati.....
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Oscar
Oaxaca, Mexico
What a horrific crime AGAINST oneself. We are all wanting a better life, I would love to not have live in fear of death everytime one of my kids or wife or even I walk outside our own walls..but life must CONTINUE..Life is not pretty, we are all stuggleing to survive in one way or another...We have to learn to accept reality, without losing site and efforts of possible change. We have to learn we CAN still live, even in war torn countries, bloodebathes, and worse, while trying to survive..We would only defeat our own purpose if we didn’t at least try.

Thank you for another fabulous thought invoking post..
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Michael C
Lyon, France
Well said! AGAINST oneself. Mind you, she must have been desperate. I mean, people who do that must have reached such depths of despair (her), summits of anger (political immolation) or heights of belief in tradition (sati) that I guess we just will never be able to understand, or at least I hope so....
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Oscar
Oaxaca, Mexico
Her desperation was horrific, I’m sure, but SHE took away her chance to love her boyfriend, and continue life..Maybe she could have gone with him. or sought outside counsel, refuge, who knows..I feel for her boyfriend, family, and loved ones..I cannot say I feel for her, as she is no longer in pain...
(Global Perspectives)
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Michael C
Lyon, France
Yep! She’s no longer in pain. But we are. That’s what she left behind her. That’s not a legacy, it’s a tragedy...and judging it isn’t an option....
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Oscar
Oaxaca, Mexico
I agree the woman (and the others can not and should not be judged.) We had a man do the same thing (head of the farmers in protest in the south of Mexico) last week in protest.. I could not even fathom the amount of anguish, rage, desperation that was trapped within them; that would allow them to take such measures..I guess that is the obscure point..When I say I do not ”feel” for her or them, it is not to deny them their true suffering, but the place empahasis on the tragedy of the lives that are left suffering, possibly forever, by their tragic decisions.
(Global Perspectives)
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Hassan Rizvi
Lahore, Pakistan
Michael,

This is a blog I find myself unable to comment on .Horrible and tragedy sounds so hollow;a feeling of pain and sadness so inadequate and unrelated to the context of a purposeless,unconsidered self inflicted loss -without any regards for the feelings or state of a great many who still love you.

Perhaps I find it difficult to relate because self immolation is practically non-existent in Islamic society though some suicides do occur even though it is considered an unforgivable sin.Perhaps something just snaps the will to live in these people when they feel they have no loved ones or even any loving higher being to support them.

I must turn to my friend old ’Khayyam’ to reflect my emotions at reading this post:

There was a door to which I found no key,
Their was a veil past which I could not see,
Some little talk awhile of thee and me,
And then - no more there seems of me and thee !
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